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Woodstock 2010 will be in Vanbrugh as usual. Currently the suggestion is to to focus all our efforts on the main stage, with maybe a wide shot or something on the indoor stage.  
Woodstock 2010 will be in Vanbrugh as usual. Currently the suggestion is to to focus all our efforts on the main stage, with maybe a wide shot or something on the indoor stage.  
 
'''Hey people, please use the discussion page for discussing things, asking questions, presenting ideas, and those odd WTF moments. Only permenent stuff here'''
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* <span style="color:#FF0000"> Someone needs to contact the organisers well before the event to tell them we '''NEED POWER''' for cameras!!!!</span>  '''DONE!  We have up to ~3.5A at the main stage'''
* We have up to ~3.5A at the main stage


* 2 HD's
* 2 HD's
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** only if space between crowd barrier & tent is adequate.
** only if space between crowd barrier & tent is adequate.
** haggle if necessary, but woodstock will be packed, and they shall be of higher importance to us - our job is to make the pictures a success, given available space.
** haggle if necessary, but woodstock will be packed, and they shall be of higher importance to us - our job is to make the pictures a success, given available space.
* 1 Howard.   '''Dependent on output and 4:3 / 16:9 decision'''
* 1 Howard.
** suspended from rig
** suspended from rig
** bring cable ties, lots of cable ties
** bring cable ties, lots of cable ties
* Miranda (sky)
* Miranda (sky)
** as wide
** as wide
** <del>on balcony per usual</del>  In V139, pointing out of the window.  
** In V139, pointing out of the window.  
** Cable run could be out of the V120 window, over the balcony, in V139 window - avoids going out of the door, needing haz tape etc.)
** Cable run could be out of the V120 window, over the balcony, in V139 window - avoids going out of the door, needing haz tape etc.)
* canon on balcony?
* canon on balcony
** eg for presenters, and jugglesoc etc near the lake in the Langwith direction if they're there again, and rear shot of audience - tree in full bloom obscures the stage
* may need to bring OB lighting rig for presenters.
** may need to bring OB lighting rig for presenters.
* power from event
* power from event
** bring the 16a > 13a's distro board
** bring the 16a > 13a's distro board
* projector
* projector - Chislett's if we have time. Woodstock cant afford one.
** find out where the projector(s) is, and possibly where the screen is from RAG
** just feed it composite
* Preview TVs --[[User:Malcolm.chambers|Malcolm.chambers]] 12:54, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
** For discussion
** Dependent on having at least one spare (we should do as we have PiP, and more tvs than we did last year.
** I (Malcolm) would advise one 6" or ~14" for the two cameras at the front of the stage, the small, home-made, 12V testing monitor for the camera at the side.


== Indoor Stage ==
== Indoor Stage ==
* A wide shot
* A wide shot
** Probably with the small sony or panasonic handheld camera
* MS5's bnc'ed to passive cat5 run to control room.  
** Dependent on the 4:3/16:9 Howard decission, Hoaward may serve as the wide shot.
* Take event sound via URY (mono, balanced, hopefully remixed)
* <del>Cams at back sides</del> Two MS5s/MS4s at the front
* Feed sent to main for possible use if wanted to fill space.
* Probably the small panasonic or sony handheld camera viewing drummer
* Tom Trolley mixed
* not many crew, so focus on main stage
* Take event sound via URY (organised, mono, balanced, hopefully remixed by URY)
* <del>Use to cut between act on main stage</del> Aim to have separate broadcasts: Main and indoor.
** can only easily interchange between them if both are 4:3
* Tom Trolley Rig (in the control room or possibly V122 to isolate the two control rooms)


== Roomspace ==
== Roomspace ==
* Woodstock have 'pretty much booked out all of Vanburgh's upstairs' for us & URY (from friday onwards)
* Woodstock have 'pretty much booked out all of Vanburgh's upstairs' for us & URY (from friday onwards)
** We'll certainly have V120 (main room overlooking the walkway with roof
** V120 (overlooking the walkway with roof)
**V139 for large sony camera, serves as wide shot of main stage
**V139 for main stage wide shot
** V122 useful for access to JCR roof for URY audio run, maybe editing, windows are useful for many video leads
** V122 useful for roof access for URY audio, & editing, & video leads
** V113 (access to, not necessarily use of) hopefully just for a cable run for the broadcast monitors in some of Vanbrugh
** V113 Vanbrugh broadcast monitors cables
* URY are in the SCR, they're possibly also V119
** V119 URY ''(verification needed)''
** SCR URY


== URY ==
== URY ==
* Mono balanced from indoor stage
* Mono balanced from indoor stage (pre-presenters)
* Stereo balanced (pre-presenters) from main stage
* Stereo balanced (pre-presenters) from main stage
* Aren't allowed to use their broadcast due to licencing, music copyright etc.
* give video feed & TV to the SCR
* Run them a video feed to the SCR - probably also give them the tv to display it on if we've got any spare


== Commercial stuff ==
== Commercial stuff ==
* Needs to happen
* Head of gestapo has done T'shirts etc...
* let people know its happening
* DVD's?


== VT's ==
== VT's ==
* Back archive of stuff to play if there's a pause - e.g. "now lets watch 2007"
* Back archive of stuff to play if there's a pause - e.g. "now lets watch 2007"
* On a per song basis, with some full sets - no-one can tell for definate how long a changeover will be!
* On a per song basis, with some full sets - no-one can tell for definate how long a changeover will be!
* '''''Dependent on  Howard 4:3/16:9 indoor/main useage'' - All Vt's to be used must be put into a 16:9 project, with black bars down sides'''
** VT's to be put into a 16:9 project, with black bars down sides ''use A.A's script for that''
** This means they get squished (in editing), and unsquished (in broadcast), rather than just unsquished in broadcast
** Thus maintaining a respectable aspect ratio, and displaying all of the image...


== Streamage ==
== Streamage ==
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== Presenting and stuff ==
== Presenting and stuff ==
* head of organisation - Viv.C
* head of organisation - Vivien Chung
** some notes about bands
** some notes about bands
* Gaps:
* Gaps:
** Main stage - 5-20 mins
** Main stage - 5-20 mins
** Indoor stage - sporadic!  '''!! 16:9 and 4:3 difficulties unless one of th spare pcs can do contemporaneous 4:3 -> 16:9 conversion !!'''
** Indoor stage - sporadic delays
* Base at balcony
* Base at balcony
* link between sets & Vt's of sets
* link between sets & Vt's of sets
* possibly band interviews if can catch any
* possibly band interviews if can catch any
** recorded to tape, probably on a canon dv, then hastily edited as a vt.
** recorded to tape, on a canon dv, then VERY fast edit to VT.


== Comms ==
== Comms ==
* give to presenters not cam Ops - cam ops can be clever
* give to presenters for balcony, not their cam ops
** SERIOUSLY !? - no comms for cameras at either stage seems a bad idea. --[[User:Malcolm.chambers|Malcolm.chambers]] 13:13, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
** see discussion page
* Clever signalling solution needed. - IE probably waving out of the V120 window in the case of presenters/camera ops on the balcony
* stage cam ops will primarily be listen only (reserve talking sets for presenters, directors, other important people)
* Clever signalling solution needed. Waving/funny faces out of the V120 window for presenters/camera ops on the balcony.


== Gazebo ==
* Stick on balcony - for rains  ??? --[[User:Malcolm.chambers|Malcolm.chambers]] 13:14, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
* Backup = go inside.


== Top n' tailing ==
* Use spare Edit OC


== Happy crew equipment ==
== Fast edits ==
* Denton Boom - Balmer
* Use spare Edit PC
** Cardioid mic is not much use on a pole with the ambient sound therefore would have to use rifle mic on the boom pole.
* Also for interviews that may/may not happen.
** Rifle mic would be good reserved for use on balcony for presenters - ie more directional therefore less ambient sound
 
** Solution 1: don't use the boom pole, give interviewers the cardioid ones (Malcolm's preferred solution)
 
** Solution 2: use cardioid mics on balcony and make sure presenters hold them close to their mouth
 
* O.B. Party box - communal food - where from exactly?
 
== O.B. Party box ==
* for morale really
* be nice, this is a light-hearted attempt at cooling down tired techies.
* there is no telling how it might work, it could be ok, it could be abosolutely useless.


== YUSU Plasma's ==
== YUSU Plasma's ==
* Cullen to talk to yusu IT GUYS. be very very persuassive.
* Cullen to talk to yusu IT GUYS. be very very persuassive. :)
* Chislett talk projectors YSL.
* NO PROJECTOR. booooo.


=='''The amazing incredibly long list of stuff to take (that might end up oneday in the correct order)'''==
''On the day, there'll be a list on the whiteboards, cross stuff out, only after it has definitely reached it's destination''
This bit is just equipment only, notes go in the notes bit up the top.


=='''The amazing incredibly long list of stuff to take (and in roughly the correct order)'''==
''On the day, there'll be a list on the whiteboards, cross stuff out, only after it has definitely reached it's destination


'''Cams'''
'''Cams'''
* HD 1
*Main:
* HD 2
** HD 1 (front of stage, dolly cam)
* HD 3
** HD 2 (front of stage)
* Canon 1
** HD 3 (side of stage)
* Canon 2
** Howard
* Howard
** Miranda
* Miranda
*Indoor:
'''tripods'''
** Sony/Panasonic handheld x2
* Manfrotto black
** Two MS4s or MS5s
* Satchler (Miranda tripod)
*Balcolny:
* Manfrotto silver 1
** Canon DV (the one without firewire capability)
* Manfrotto silver 2
*Roaming: (tape)
'''mixers'''
** Canon DV (WITH firewire)
 
 
'''Tripods'''
* Manfrotto black (the big one)
* <del>black, Jessops</del> Currently unuseable.
* Jessops silver tripod
* Satchler (Miranda (Sony) tripod)
* 2 x Manfrotto silver
* and any others we have
 
 
'''Mixers'''
* DaVE
* DaVE
* Mr T. Trolley
* Tom Trolley
* P164
 
** ''a P164 is not a Maurice! - Maurice is the controls for it! P164's do come in mixer variants too''
 
'''Switchers'''
'''Switchers'''
* P169
* P169
* P169 Serial lead
* P169 Serial lead
* P69 Laptop
* P169 Laptop
* Touchscreen
* Touchscreen
'''Playback devices'''
'''Playback devices'''
* VTPC
* VTPC
''or''
* Chislett's box
** Running screen monkey (awesome VT,PPt, GFX system)
** via acer scaler
'''Convertors'''
* Acer
* Corio
'''Preview Monitors'''
'''Preview Monitors'''
* 6 from ''the premiere valley of the edit PC'
''these are the monitors as they are named in YSTV, not as they will be''
* Net Mon
* 6 from the premiere valley of the edit PC's.
* Dave Prog Mon
* Dave Prog
* VTPC mon
* Dave Prev
* GFX mon
* GFX Out
* Vidserv in Mon
* VTPC out
''Mike, why are there so many monitors? - If one dies no-one wants to walk all the way back!''
* Vidserv in
** ''Not Net Out. It's dying.''
* 5 NewNEC's
* 1 TV
* 1 yuraku
''Mike says: "Mike, why are there so many monitors?" - If one dies no-one wants to walk all the way back!''


'''Recording devices'''
 
'''DA's (vid)'''
* 2 Crates of 1u
 
 
''' Audio'''
* Behringer silver (OB mixer)
* Every XLR known to man
* All the adapters.
* All the mics minus the samsons(studio ones)
* One set of active speakers (for hearing VT's)
* Compressors
 
 
''' Comms '''
* The comms pile
 
 
'''Capture devices'''
* VTA
* VTA
'''Capture devices'''
* VTB
 
* some S tapes
''Responsibility of computing team''


'''Streamage devices'''
'''Streamage devices'''
''Responsibility of computing team''
''Responsibility of computing team''
* New stream0
* New stream0
* Edit PC
* Edit PC
'''Cables'''
* ''thou shalt bring every cable known to mankind:''
* BNC's Box
* BNC's flightcae
* Odd audio Box
* Umbilical Box
* long BNC's Box
* BNC's on reels
* XLR's on reels (connect to URY)
* the =/= duff stuff box (actually contains IEC leads)
* Ties.


'''Other bits'''
'''Other bits'''
* O.B.Party Box
* O.B.Party Box
** Will contain:
*** Minifridge
*** Blender ''( mike want smoothies !)''
*** Minifridge.
** Gaff & LX
*** ''ALL of it''
* Bean Bags. Because we can.


'''Other more serious bits'''
'''Other more serious bits'''
* Techie fixbox
* Techie "fixbox"
** Soldering irom
** Soldering iron
** Solder!
** Solder!
** Crimp kit
** Crimp kit
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** Cable ties
** Cable ties
* Insulating tape
* Insulating tape
** different colours!
* Gaffa/duct/duck. Don't argue about the name.
*** everyone gets a different colour, so when packing up, we know who coils odd
* BNC barrels & adaptors (just in case)
*** ''I hope it's not me''
 
*** It'll look nice too
[[Category:Woodstock]]
** on a more serious note, any taping we do that people will see should be black, and "haz'd" where appropriate.
[[Category:Rigs]]

Latest revision as of 16:50, 23 July 2021

Woodstock 2010 will be in Vanbrugh as usual. Currently the suggestion is to to focus all our efforts on the main stage, with maybe a wide shot or something on the indoor stage. Hey people, please use the discussion page for discussing things, asking questions, presenting ideas, and those odd WTF moments. Only permenent stuff here

Main Stage

  • We have up to ~3.5A at the main stage
  • 2 HD's
    • as roaming
  • 1 HD as dollycam
    • only if space between crowd barrier & tent is adequate.
    • haggle if necessary, but woodstock will be packed, and they shall be of higher importance to us - our job is to make the pictures a success, given available space.
  • 1 Howard.
    • suspended from rig
    • bring cable ties, lots of cable ties
  • Miranda (sky)
    • as wide
    • In V139, pointing out of the window.
    • Cable run could be out of the V120 window, over the balcony, in V139 window - avoids going out of the door, needing haz tape etc.)
  • canon on balcony
  • may need to bring OB lighting rig for presenters.
  • power from event
    • bring the 16a > 13a's distro board
  • projector - Chislett's if we have time. Woodstock cant afford one.

Indoor Stage

  • A wide shot
  • MS5's bnc'ed to passive cat5 run to control room.
  • Take event sound via URY (mono, balanced, hopefully remixed)
  • Feed sent to main for possible use if wanted to fill space.
  • Tom Trolley mixed

Roomspace

  • Woodstock have 'pretty much booked out all of Vanburgh's upstairs' for us & URY (from friday onwards)
    • V120 (overlooking the walkway with roof)
    • V139 for main stage wide shot
    • V122 useful for roof access for URY audio, & editing, & video leads
    • V113 Vanbrugh broadcast monitors cables
    • V119 URY (verification needed)
    • SCR URY

URY

  • Mono balanced from indoor stage (pre-presenters)
  • Stereo balanced (pre-presenters) from main stage
  • give video feed & TV to the SCR

Commercial stuff

  • Head of gestapo has done T'shirts etc...

VT's

  • Back archive of stuff to play if there's a pause - e.g. "now lets watch 2007"
  • On a per song basis, with some full sets - no-one can tell for definate how long a changeover will be!
    • VT's to be put into a 16:9 project, with black bars down sides use A.A's script for that

Streamage

  • Both stages
    • Use new strm0
    • Use an Edit PC

Presenting and stuff

  • head of organisation - Vivien Chung
    • some notes about bands
  • Gaps:
    • Main stage - 5-20 mins
    • Indoor stage - sporadic delays
  • Base at balcony
  • link between sets & Vt's of sets
  • possibly band interviews if can catch any
    • recorded to tape, on a canon dv, then VERY fast edit to VT.

Comms

  • give to presenters for balcony, not their cam ops
    • see discussion page
  • stage cam ops will primarily be listen only (reserve talking sets for presenters, directors, other important people)
  • Clever signalling solution needed. Waving/funny faces out of the V120 window for presenters/camera ops on the balcony.


Fast edits

  • Use spare Edit PC
  • Also for interviews that may/may not happen.



O.B. Party box

  • for morale really
  • be nice, this is a light-hearted attempt at cooling down tired techies.
  • there is no telling how it might work, it could be ok, it could be abosolutely useless.

YUSU Plasma's

  • Cullen to talk to yusu IT GUYS. be very very persuassive. :)
  • NO PROJECTOR. booooo.

The amazing incredibly long list of stuff to take (that might end up oneday in the correct order)

On the day, there'll be a list on the whiteboards, cross stuff out, only after it has definitely reached it's destination

This bit is just equipment only, notes go in the notes bit up the top.


Cams

  • Main:
    • HD 1 (front of stage, dolly cam)
    • HD 2 (front of stage)
    • HD 3 (side of stage)
    • Howard
    • Miranda
  • Indoor:
    • Sony/Panasonic handheld x2
    • Two MS4s or MS5s
  • Balcolny:
    • Canon DV (the one without firewire capability)
  • Roaming: (tape)
    • Canon DV (WITH firewire)


Tripods

  • Manfrotto black (the big one)
  • black, Jessops Currently unuseable.
  • Jessops silver tripod
  • Satchler (Miranda (Sony) tripod)
  • 2 x Manfrotto silver
  • and any others we have


Mixers

  • DaVE
  • Tom Trolley


Switchers

  • P169
  • P169 Serial lead
  • P169 Laptop
  • Touchscreen


Playback devices

  • VTPC

or

  • Chislett's box
    • Running screen monkey (awesome VT,PPt, GFX system)
    • via acer scaler


Convertors

  • Acer
  • Corio


Preview Monitors these are the monitors as they are named in YSTV, not as they will be

  • 6 from the premiere valley of the edit PC's.
  • Dave Prog
  • Dave Prev
  • GFX Out
  • VTPC out
  • Vidserv in
    • Not Net Out. It's dying.
  • 5 NewNEC's
  • 1 TV
  • 1 yuraku

Mike says: "Mike, why are there so many monitors?" - If one dies no-one wants to walk all the way back!


DA's (vid)

  • 2 Crates of 1u


Audio

  • Behringer silver (OB mixer)
  • Every XLR known to man
  • All the adapters.
  • All the mics minus the samsons(studio ones)
  • One set of active speakers (for hearing VT's)
  • Compressors


Comms

  • The comms pile


Capture devices

  • VTA
  • VTB
  • some S tapes

Streamage devices Responsibility of computing team

  • New stream0
  • Edit PC


Cables

  • thou shalt bring every cable known to mankind:
  • BNC's Box
  • BNC's flightcae
  • Odd audio Box
  • Umbilical Box
  • long BNC's Box
  • BNC's on reels
  • XLR's on reels (connect to URY)
  • the =/= duff stuff box (actually contains IEC leads)
  • Ties.


Other bits

  • O.B.Party Box
    • Will contain:
      • Minifridge
      • Blender ( mike want smoothies !)
      • Minifridge.
    • Gaff & LX
      • ALL of it
  • Bean Bags. Because we can.

Other more serious bits

  • Techie "fixbox"
    • Soldering iron
    • Solder!
    • Crimp kit
    • BNC Crimpers
    • Cat5 crimpers
    • Scrwedrivers (all types!)
    • Cable ties
  • Insulating tape
  • Gaffa/duct/duck. Don't argue about the name.
  • BNC barrels & adaptors (just in case)
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